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I have created this post to hold the ever growing number of comments posted against the instructions page. Comments are now disabled on the instructions page in favour of using this forum.
Maybe A Little late, but does the idea of having the points earnt the last race aswell as overall points sound a good idea or not, as having the origional points score but can be clicked on and expanded to have points gained in each grand Prix compaired to others in the league that your in?, just a sugestion.
How do you exit a league after joining it?
Matt, you can already do that using the League tables link in the left menu. Just select the league you want to view, the race you want to view and then select 'Points gained only during the selected race weekend'.
Let me know the team and the league, then I'll remove the team for you.
Thank-You, found it now.
Can you please remove my #2 team (Handsome Rob's 4-Wheel AllStars #2) from the 'ClubCalibra.net' team?
Several teams are running Mercedes engines this year, do you get points for all of them or just McClaren?
Yes all of them. See FAQ link.
I love pretty much everything about the scoring system here, but I have to say that I am shocked to see that all teams from an engine supplier count towards point scoring. Someone that has chosen Mercedes for just a mere 3 million more than BMW for instance will receive points from 6 cars while the BMW selection will only receive points from 2. Surely this is unjust? Couldn't scoring be modified to score only the engines from the manufacturer teams e.g Merc, BMW, Renault, Toyota and Ferrari and not take into account Williams, Red Bull, Toro Rosso, Brawn GP and Force India? Alternatively, perhaps just score the top 2 cars from any engine supplier including privateers? Even the 2nd option makes it a little fairer for all.
If you think the Mercedes engine will score more than BMW, then I'd suggest you choose the Mercedes engine. The rules are set. The prices are set. The skill in the game is working out what components you think will be a bargain based on the rules and their prices.
I doesn't take much skill to realise that 6 cars scoring against 2 is a massive advantage. Brawn GP are flying, McLaren will be probably be back up top in a few races, and Force India even look to be performing well with Sutil. Mercedes could produce a crap engine that blows up 60% of the time while they could still potentially score more than BMW even if they have 100% relliability. If Brawn GP hadn't pitched up at such a late stage after securing Merc engines then it would have probably been ok, but the fact is, at the very least, Mercedes should have been the most expensive.
One thing is for sure, the winning Fantasy F1 team this year will have Mercedes engines...
but when I set the prices, I predicted that Brawn GP and Force India would be fighting it out for the back rows of the grid. I certainly didn't predict that Brawn GP would be flying! Let's just see what Sunday brings. I hope you enjoy the season :o)
...I appreciate what you're saying. The effort that you have put in - and continue to put in - is appreciated. I hope you enjoy the season too :o)
THANKS for doing this. It's alot of fun and I have wanted to do some sort of Fantasy F1 for a while now. Again thanks for giving a hoot enough to not only start this but keep doing it.
I agree that the rules are more like the real F1. I also like the fact that you can't change after the start.
Regarding engines choice, who knows who will be up and who will be down at the end. That's all part of the fun! It may not be a Mercedes but I would put my money on that being the best choice at the end based on the way things stand now.
Ian I am impressed with the relative simplicity of this F1 fantasy league. I think the numbers that have joined reflects this. Thanks.
"The skill in the game is working out what components you think will be a bargain based on the rules and their prices."
What's the point if you can't change your team components from week to week, and you can use a lot to base this on too, previous successes, type of track, weather conditions.
I had a friend talk me into this league and was getting me excited about F1 racing, but this league is far from fantasy, it's just a guessing match, no skill, whoever guesses the best from the beginning is the winner and everyone loses out on making changes to their team to give themselves a chance to win, especially with such a lame rules glitch as engine points. The opportunity to make adjustments would have kept me involved from beginning to end, I guess I'll have to rely on some other means to keep me involved in F1, because this site isn't fantasy F1 racing, it's really lame.
It's a good attempt, I guess, but overall, my initial experience is this is lame.
don't be so ungrateful...it doesn't sound as if you have taken part in F1 leagues before.
If so, you'd know that this league is more advanced than others and although 'transfers' are not allowed, it does take into account Quali and other options not available in other leagues.
AND, it's free.
Thanks go to the organisers.
The ultimate settling for whatever someone else does. Complacency is devistating my friend.
I'm just sore that I didn't do the research into the points system to figure out what would put me ahead from the beginning. I planned on figuring the league out as we go. I have nothing invested in this, so it's not a great loss to me.
The sad thing is that their are 4,000 people that scored lower than me in this. I made a total guess and out performed over half of the site.
joes hasn't played anything like this before obviously, this is about the best game that you'll find, you don't have to do anything once the season starts, all automated and it's FREE, quit moaning!!!!!
If you are unhappy with somehting then why not go find something else to moan about!!!
Might as well...
Will we have the chance to change our selections after the first race or are we stuck with our choices for the whole season?
the FAQ says: Can I change my team between races?
Sorry, but no. Once the season begins, your team can no longer be changed.
What's the point of following this for an entire season if I figure out that going with BMW was a dumb idea over Mercedes? I'm new to the arena of F1 racing, but not the world of fantasy sports. This in no way, helps become a fan either!
Also, what is with the tone of the responses? I've heard that F1 fans are elitests and whoever is responding to these, namely ff1, is doing nothing to disparage that impression.
I'll probably get removed from this site, but what does it matter anyway, I get no value from this at all, unless BMW somehow finds it's way into more cars.
When FF1 started last season i was 690th by the end of the season i was 1st. After the first race i wished that i could have changed my team but thats the point of FF1 you stick by your choice.
I also noticed that people were moaning about the tie break time.......... did anyone email the teams to see what they thought it might be? If you did then your taking the game seriously!
"but thats the point of FF1 you stick by your choice."
If this is the point of FF1, then the priorities and direction of this site should really be re-evaluated. The point should be to have fun, promote FF1. I did some research on this in the last 1/2 hour. The problem is, that as a whole the FF1 world continues to be stuck in a world that accepts less than the best and then gets all elitest about it.
With Mercedes being the engine of 6 cars, not picking Mercedes will prevent me from advancing in this league. I don't have the option to change that. I even joked with a colleague, that we'll see how it starts and I'll make adjustments from there. Adjustments? You know kind of like a real team does to gain leverage on the competition. They make tire adjustment, gear ratio adjustments, chassis adjustments, driver's practice, learn new techniques, refine old techniques. If nobody was allowed to make changes, or adjustments in Formula 1, then why would they continue to race? They do!
This league doesn't give me that option, I'm stuck. It doesn't matter anyway, today will be the last day I'll ever do FF1 again anyway, especially if the "point" is that you are "stuck"
from what i understand this site is a result of an evolved home-made fantasy league from the owners office. quite impressive when you step back and look at it. i think its great, simple and realistic. not to mention reasonable in overhead and work by the owner who obviously has a day job. oh, and it's FREE. perhaps you missed that part of the story, along with the FAQ's before the season began. I think you'll be fine though, stick with it, it's 2009 and after what we all just watched anything can happen. Ferrari didn't score any points after winning the 2008 manufacturer's championship. besides, you still benefit from "a real team gaining leverage on the competition." but you won't see Brawn GP swapping their car for a Renault and driver for Kimi.
/agree with curtis to be honest.
2 drivers, one car, 1 engine, just like real life, and alot better than alot of other fantasy leagues that give the option of picking a bundle of drivers and buying in and out as the season goes on.
Pre-season homework FTW. :)
You think I haved a shot from 5300th place right now?
Joes, thank you for your comments. I know there have been other users in previous seasons who have also shared this opinion. I'm sure there are also others this season as well.
However, I have always wanted this game to be simple. The type of users it was set up for didn't want to spend time before each race working out the best strategy for that week. They wanted to choose a team at the beginning of the season and watch it as the season progresses. Those users still want that.
Fortunately for me, thousands of other users also like that format. It has helped this site grow from 100 teams in 2005 to over 7000 teams in 2009.
If you want to play a game that allows transfers every race, then I hate to say this, but this isn't the site for you. There are many other good fantasy formula 1 sites out there that work in that format and some of them even allow you to enter until the second or third race.
As for this site, it will be sticking with the same simple format that so many users enjoy. :o)
ff1 you have a good system. I like the format and the scoring. The rules are all spelled out and people should read them before creating a team. I like the format because it's closer to how a real team operates, 2 drivers, a car and an engine. The adjustments made are technical and made by the real teams so I enjoy reading up on which teams have adapted to change more effectively throughout the years so I can select the components that I think will be more successful taking into account their price as well. This helps me get more familiar with the sport. Keep up the good work.
I completely agree, Peshkatari. I wish I had read Joes's second thread before replying to his first. Unfortunately this person won't derive any fun from FF1, apparent from the nature of their posts.
Football generally takes the other direction (in the extreme) and it's too much hassle for me personally as an 'arm-chair' supporter to change my teams every week based on injuries, red & yellow card suspensions, etc. FF1 has found a good formula and it now promises to be an exciting season full of debate on the forum.
Game on, as FF1 says!
I agree, I have been out of the F1 watching for a few years - have a family and busy weekends and only really get to watch the race.
I did a few hours reading before the season to familiarise myself with teams etc and made my choices and will stick by them.
Unfortunately I would lose out if I had to constantly look at my team every race and sell and buy back in as just not enough time along with my FT job.
FF1 - a good format for the more casual F1 person
I just want to thank the site authors for a great FF1 site which will make the season much more interesting for me.
I like the fact the choices are now set with no changes as I have little time to adminster the changes required in, for instance, a football league. My friends and I are now eagerly debating the decisions we have made and are already anticipating the next race.
I can't understand the number of people complaining about the cost of BMW against Mercedes given that Mercedes have 6 engines. If you feel that Mercedes have an unfair advantage then surely you should have picked them instead of BMW? I picked them based on this and am very happy with the results.
This site is free to join, despite the expense and hard work of the author(s) so please show a little appreciation. I do.
how can people moan?
This site is provided totally free of charge. It's not as if Ian asks us to pay to join, or is even getting anything out of providing us with this top notch facility.
If you dont like the format... Bye bye
and the rules have been there for weeks before the season started. Should of read them before registering.
7000 people can't be wrong :D
The amount of folks complaining here is amazing. Take your ball and go home if you don't like it. Or better yet, start up your own FF1 site. I'm sure once you see how much effort is involved, you'll be back.
I'm absolutely tickled with this site and am having a blast. Thank you.
I really can't understand why somebody would complain, the rules are set out before you enter for everyone to read and you agree to them by entering the competition, if you don't agree, then put up and shut up!
This is the second year myself and my work colleagues have enjoyed FF1.
The format is great, just like real life, but also gives those colleagues with very little F1 experience the chance to compete with us fanatics which works great for us and gives us something to chuckle about every Monday after a race!
Out of all the fantasy F1 sites out there, this is clearly the easiest to follow and set up and I look forward to continuing our fun for years to come!
yes you were dumb to enter a competition without reading the rules first,you wont be missed!
Hi. Following the FIA announcement that Lewis Hamilton has been disqualified from the Australian GP, will the points be updated to reflect this and the subsequent restoration of Jarno Trulli's 3rd place? I understand that this is potentially a fair bit of hassle, but I just wondered what this website's position was... Thanks.
First a punk new kid who was handed a ride because he kissed Ron Dennis's butt all those years. Then his team lies, cheats and steals, and he smiles about it. Drives like a jerk and laughs and cant contain his punk smiling on camera. Now he is a liar... I know you brits love this guy, and if he were my nationality, I'd probably support him too. I can't stand him. He's a punk. What I really can't stand about him is he is probably the next Michael Schumacher. This is going to drive me nuts until he retires. I want to slap his punk face. I think we sould lure him to a NASCAR event and really show him how to bump and grind.
Have a great season!
Jeez even for a spam that's some chip you're carrying around buddy. I know you lot can't take it when the rest of the world show you how poor you are at everything except rounders but come on - just admit Lewis is one of the best of the current crop. As for NASCAR, do you really want another brit coming over and showing you up?
"bump & grind" my butt - I see better at banger racing over here! As for "if he were my nationality" then you've got a long wait before you have a countryman to cheer in F1 (probably see a girl win F1 championship before a yank), the halls of F1 fame are hardly littered with names from across the pond.
....or are you just crying because your not even in the top 5000!
I totally agree. What an asshole!
Nascar is full of "drivers" not good enough for F1, going round in endless circles, Hamilton would win with his eyes shut.
When did you last have anyone who could really drive?
hi..i just joined..i can't create a team as yet riite??..so when can i create then?..plzz let me know..thankyou
Sometime during the close season when next season's competition opens.